Live blog: Mark Surman and Mitchell Baker #Mozfest Firesidechat
by Greg McVerry · November 8, 2015
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Mark says we want to do more research but we don’t have the budget such as Microsoft. He wants to be more intentional and look to other people to do the work.
Here is the link to the Global Literacy Studies. Its a product development study but there are some awesome bits of knowledge in there.
Mark Surman says there might be people with adjacent missions but it isn’t actually there mission. He uses open badges and educators as an example. Our job is not to be the open education foundation or the disruption agenda.
We need to build alliance and not take on another issue. I feel like much of the talk Mark is doing is an implicit response to this piece.
Mitchell Baker says they need a clear and focus agenda. Uses zero rating an India as an example. Says they need focus. I agree. I feel like the the goals, especially key targets, for Mozilla change after each board meeting.
Nate Otto asks he meets a lot of people who support the mission but the story isn’t told. Asks about how can people in MoFo and MoCo make a difference without being spread too thin.
(Back story Nate is the interim Badge Alliance director which has on again and off again MoFo support).
For him openness matters, so they focus on building tools, products, and people.
Mark Surman’s elevator speech: we are a a point when everyone will be on the Internet. So how the Internet works out will have a huge influence on how humanity works out.
Mitchell Baker says, “Mozilla is best known for Firefox, but that is a small part. We want to create a slice of your life that is concerned for you. We are a non-profit. There are other people who will take care of economic growth.”
Mark notes that Mitchell’s elevator speech is too long. He says to go back to the Mozilla Manifesto
Great question from a new MoFo. She is a week old and wants to get people on the movement. Asks what their elevator speech is.
Somebody asks about how can large scale volunteer organizations support each other.
Someone from MoCo asks how can MoCo help MoFo. Mark pushes back and says we need to learn to help each other.
I asked about the idea of Firefox becoming a truly remixable experience. I remember it being in the plan after the Portland all-hands. Nobody recalled it, but the idea sounded really cool. They mentioned browser.html I remember reading it in the plan it was called “Team Tiger.” I guess it never happened.
Mitchell Baker, doesn’t get specific on the collapse of the market share. Says more is better. Marketshare is hurting but growing.
Doc Searls asks about Firefox marketshare. He wants to know how does it influence the other issues.
She is right many people come to Mozilla through passion. She highlights educators (hey thats me) as an example. They identify as educators first not as Mozillians.
Mitchell Baker pushes back a little bit and says movement needs defining not the fuel.
Mozilla needs to focus on the battles where a technology company can make a difference on issues that matter. He talks about fueling the movement.
Mark Surman: We are not the movement for openness. We were born of it, but we are not the open movement.
Mitchell Baker: Mozilla is not a human rights organization. We are an Internet, people, and tool organization. The surveillance fight is part of our mission because it threatens the Internet
Baker: The core of Mozilla is about how the Internet is a global and public resource open and accessible to all.
Mitchell Baker: We made sacrifices. We live in a community of billionaires, but me and my founders are not. We made the choice to build something for the world and not our personal wealth.
Mitchell Baker: The government should not be treating citizens as enemies all the time. We need a real balance where people are into tech. She is right getting into tech should not be about amassing power. It needs to be about empowering.
Mitchell Baker retorts “it’s not about getting caught” its about democracy and speech. She uses #mozfest as an example. Is it a gathering of people or the basis of discussion of issues. She feels it is a good place to gather. People that are here recognize the work is hard and takes sacrifice.
An Italian journalist is questioning the radicalization of the Mozilla mission.
These are the slides we have been discussing and sharing.
We are good at identifying activists and leaders who want to do active work.
Mark: We need to be bolder and more on the thought leader on critical issues. We did it well with #webliteracy but we need to do it across MoFo. For example let’s start publishing a “State of the Web” report.
Over the last six months MoFo has asked what are the challenges of the world. What are we good at? What do we need to get better at?
They begin by reminding us Mozilla is two legal entities: Mozilla Foundation (MoFo) and Mozilla Corporation (MoCo). Mitchell says they are two groups that are different but they need to serve each other. MoFo learning programs have to feed into MoCo.